Episode 50 · 40:26

Transform Your Room & Energy Hacks - Fun Festival Tales!

Room makeovers, live gigs and a new drum kit set up a conversation about changing the environment around your work. Dan and Tom then consider consistency, documenting a long journey and the formats that make short-form content spread.

The practical point is that energy is not only a feeling; it can be designed through space, ritual and a visible reason to show up again.

The useful bits

What to take with you

  • Your environment can make a desired behaviour easier before motivation is involved.
  • A repeatable pre-performance ritual helps you enter the right state on demand.
  • Documenting progress creates material even before the final outcome exists.
  • Consistency builds a body of evidence that isolated bursts of enthusiasm cannot.

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Transcript

Transcript generated from YouTube captions. Dan/Tom speaker attribution is AI-assisted and may occasionally be incorrect.

Dan0:00

I'll guess I'll be the interviewer as you brought the the passion today so um no you need to Al you were just doing the shaking up thing otherwise the shakeup energy thing did not work so you need to do it again to bring the energy as it energy energy energy energy um you're not thrusting hard enough I think um okay that could be the intro that the intro yo how you doing it's moving around my whole room as you do.

Tom0:31

So have I I've I'm like I'm getting cold I've thrown on this uh most wrinkly jumper I could uh find so it doesn't help that the uh sun is uh the light makes it look more wrinkly but maybe I should either turn this way or or just stretch more so it's a bit more flatter I'm currently setting at my my drum kit so I'm trying to pull this bed apart cuz I need more space because the drum Kit's too close to the wall so I.

Dan1:03

Need to like back and then I was like okay I need an allen key found one Allen key it's not the right size cool found another Al key not the right size cool three found another alen key not the right size and then beautifully I obviously have all my tools in a see-through box right so I was like cool I'll just look down the side of the box and then I found the Allen keys of all Allen Keys all.

Tom1:31

So it thankfully fits cuz the Allen key that I need is like this second largest one which is um a bit too much but um yeah finally I have managed to solve it which is great so I'm very very happy and now I need to slowly like disassemble if that's the word yeah but I've also noticed the Acoustics are awful in here when there's no bed in here so I need to work that out not just put against the wall yeah I might put it.

Dan2:01

Behind or I might put it um against the window or I don't know yet so but yeah the joys of uh setting stuff off and things so yeah it's been good fun how are you doing today yeah I always find that every time I start this podcast I want to move everything around so uh luckily he didn't press record minutes I was moving the green screen to the other side of the room in a very small room so it took.

Tom2:27

Me ages to get it to the other side yeah well that's it sometimes you need a change don't you you know like they say if you go into a new job you hire somebody you fire somebody and you uh change something so unless you uh work for yourself quite hard in that case you move your room around so it's easy so yeah hopefully this week um well I think last week because I found my iners my airpods last week I.

Dan2:58

Could hear on the audio like you speaking through my headphones because I obviously just had iPhone headphones that were too loud so hopefully there won't be any audio bleed today which is a good thing so it's all about that high production value as it were so I hopefully there's no audio bleed from when I have these yeah I I think it's because maybe I Set Side onto the microphone because I I assume that I don't want to breathe directly into it.

Tom3:25

Um so I kind of like sit side on so I'm not like but who knows it's have to cut out the echo of my bass drum yeah yeah it's probably going to have to cut out the echo of my bass drum because I can hear as I'm speaking it's resonating my B and my um floor toms so it's like a ring every time I speak but yeah either the mic is so good that I can't hear it or it's post production that you'll hear.

Dan3:48

Yeah you'll hear all in post yeah cuz right now it's uh streaming over the Internet so it's cutting all the it's downgrading the quality of it so we'll we'll soon find out I always just do the whole remove background noise and it seems to work out fine anyway yeah so now I need to memorize how to pull this like remember how I'm going to pull it apart so if I want to put it put it back together that I can.

Tom4:10

Put it back together correctly that's the goal so the is up or the drum mostly the bed mostly the bed you need to get a Murphy bed that can just push up against a wall and then you got your acoustic sorted or have a bed that's in the ceiling have you seen those ones that like come down from the ceiling yeah those look cool the Japanese style thing so I'm like oh it's even better because a lot of the time you have these.

Dan4:35

High ceilings you're not actually utilizing the space so if you had like six in well not six inches like probably like more than six inches worth of like thickness maybe like 10 12 inches of something um then it'd be like and it comes down on like ropes or like wires you just hope that it doesn't get activated in the night and you slow moving up into the thing it's like a death trap getting crushed in like the Star Wars.

Tom5:04

Walls and then you wake up and you realize you're against the ceiling yeah it's your own bad trying to kill [Laughter] you yeah you know when people recreate like budget you know when people like film and recreate films but like with super low budget like a couple of friends you could be like you build a bed and you recreate the Star Wars thing like with the bad but you just have the camera guy on on an angle so it looks.

Dan5:29

Like the walls are collapsing in that would be so funny and then you just have like a jab at the hut which essentially is a dog being like yeah I'm sure someone's either not tried that or can give that a go they can steal this idea and run with it yeah we're all about not only business ideas but movie ideas talking about movie ideas I saw your Tweet towards the reom guys about the um to Mel Honey about a new episode.

Tom6:00

Oh yeah I I thought that was so funny have you seen the um have you seen the video yeah yeah yeah so background for you guys just because obviously otherwise it will make no sense if you go over to Twitter and sorry X and search Ryland Studio you'll see that Tom has replied to Rob mckel honey on a tweet about a video I think it's in La somewhere where there's literally a guy on a bus and he's hooked a um oh what do.

Dan6:27

You even call it yeah hammock in the bus and he's in the hammock and then someone's like hey you get better get off the bus and he's like no I won't and then he wraps himself in the hammock and he's like spinning around I think it's so funny so funny so they were like Rob was like if you can name this episode I will make an episode of um only Sunny in Philadelphia only said yeah only Sunny they can imagine Charlie.

Tom6:54

Doing it it's always sunny It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia yeah it's so um I I think that would be a really funny episode um if they can do the whole like it's kind of like social commentary right you saw this in a thing and then they make a film about it but they give it this great backstory because what I found you know the vid the episode that they did about um the um when they were doing the like.

Dan7:21

Insurrection stuff in the US and like the ballots being like um kind of like faked and stuff and you know how they manag get the gang involved in all of those different things which are like real stories I thought that was so funny so yeah I don't know what that episode was called but yeah side comment how is your uh video it seems a bit glitchy on uh my side yours it probably is glitchy yeah I I hope that it'll iron itself out in the.

Tom7:51

Real thing CU it's glitchy for me too but I I don't know what to do I literally have no idea what I should be doing I feel like you'll be C3PO like I really hope not shutting down I really hope not maybe what I'll do just right now before we actually fully start start is just turn the camera on and off yeah I've just closed loads of stuff in the background just to make sure that mine isn't randomly slowing it down that.

Dan8:22

Is true laptops a little bit more powerful than mine but sometimes it can be the I hope that nothing is happening but yeah I really hope that this is fine in real life otherwise it's is going to be incredibly irtin I'll just have like me and you side by side so at least then you're work moving in real time and then I'm not moving in real time which will be hopefully less noticeable so got to look interested the.

Tom8:49

Whole time now okay yeah maybe I just got to freeze in like really positive ways and then it'll be fine right so you get going you can roll on [Music] this boom welcome back to don't be a door stop I just I just remembered something let me cut back to this and then I'll start it again cut cut cut is um I'm going to keep spot the I spotted the um Bible project people going energy energy energy energy energy just before video.

Dan9:21

To basically get their energy going so I thought of that straight away and that threw me off my thing okay energy energy energy energy energ en energy [Music] energy St don't be a door stop don't be a door St and welcome back to don't be a door stop so today we'll be speaking about insert here because I don't even know what the topic is um we've been talking about production and sorting out our our room as we've been getting ready.

As you've noticed the podcast has slightly changed its formation or format I should say so at the start we are just doing a preamble chat just because we thought it'd be something a bit different something a bit interesting um yeah and it's easy enough to skip if you're not that bothered um so yeah what are we talking about today Dan what's on the Dome I I love that when you're like I don't know what I'm going to bring to.

The table so like do you have anything to bring to the table I'm like as soon as we say let's start now my brain goes blank so I I literally have nothing specific that I was going to mention as such but so the gig the latest gig yeah the the latest gig was in Devon and it wasn't with me this time it was just Kim solo so um I was more so the muscle the making sure everything okay making sure in is are all good and.

Stuff but that went really well and act actually some guy in his like 70s um so what it is like a festival of like music and stuff and there's Fairground rides or like food things in this like you know this like Petting Farm type place they have like a like it's on their grounds so you have like there's like a roller coaster there there's like a petting zoo um there's like food stores and then there's this massive like gig tent this like stage um.

So Kim performed on the stage and then later on in the evening do you remember a band called Reef American band and they did this song um that was um put your hands up put your hands up like that band were basically the headliners so they were playing it like like 8 n o' which is pretty cool but this guy so Kim and does her G finishes while we're going around getting food and stuff um some guy like is it like.

They make a beine for you they literally this guy is like walking directly towards us he's in his 70s or whatever with his bucket hat um and yeah we should start selling Prime bucket hats I've been sending Tom photos this is sideline I've been sending some photos of every time I see somebody ripping off the Prime logo in an illegal fashion because it's copyrighted but they'll get away with it because one they're selling bucket hats with Prime on it or like.

Even so there's like a local Fairground here over the weekend and they were selling Prime like soft toys that were like bottles um I'm like if Prime actually saw this they would sue you but because they're never going to see it you're getting away with it so I thought that was like a clever idea so business idea number one what brand can you take that you could do in such a small way that like Prime will never find out.

About it and you'll never get sued but you're sell in like 15 pound bucket hats to like primary school kids with the word Prime on top of it I just thought was great anyway 75y old guy does a beline towards us and he was like oh can I just say you you like what you did was amazing it was really good so Kim is like message in it is like um basically like find your purpose and do your.

Purpose don't listen to other people and go for it make steps towards your purpose and he was like that's a that message is great I was literally turned to my 11-year-old niece and be like hey sorry granddaughter and was like Hey listen like you like listen to that that's really important kind of thing um and um he was super complimentary and I was like oh awesome like you know in gigs sometimes you don't get like individual interaction but you see like a Vibe right so you'll.

See people over there like vibing or people over here vibing but you won't get necessarily those like onetoone interactions as such all the time so when somebody like explicitly like comes for you because he saw us leaving and he's like oh I'll try and catch them when they come around the other end um so he saw like we were around where he was sat so he came over to us and he was like oh I really thought your music was.

Great like like the songs and the the lyrics and stuff was really really good so I was like oh if sometimes you know like if it was all for this one kind of like encounter then it was all worth it it was like that for Kim so I was like oh this is really cool and like thanks to this like 75y old dude literally a non-music he's he's not musical he just like enjoys music so um yeah he's very.

Complimentary like ex teer SLX like head nurse or something like that um lives out in Devon and he was like oh yeah you should come to Devon more often I I was like Deon is very very far but it is very nice um so that was like a really nice personal interaction um which like makes things like valuable how the gig compared to the others I've heard that this is Festival Vibe compared to the other ones that more like Club venues.

Yeah so um obviously the rexen ones was more like a showcase indoors and more so showcasing to other Bookers of festivals and so forth um so that was obviously a little bit different this one is literally more so a classic festival type thing um so yeah it was good fun and again you don't have much time between two artists but um between the person before kimma and Kim there was like a sber band playing on the ground like so they're not on the stage so then.

You get time to set up and stuff so yeah I thought it was really good and then Kim sang a couple of like extra like bonus songs that she's that she doesn't play when she's with me because we've not added it to the set list yet um and they went without a hitch as well so yeah it was all really good and most importantly Kim was very happy with all the social videos that I recorded cuz I was obviously there to be.

Able to record videos nice so you so yeah the gig went really well and you're not drumming your videographer yeah and and carrying the sound stuff to make sure I can plug in for her in is and making sure it like settled and stuff before then I uh shoot off and take photos so yeah it was really really really good fun really good fun so really enjoying this and like so I'm not sure when this arrived but I think in the last since the last.

Podcast this drum kit has turned up and I've got like a custom um I might not be able to show it to you who knows let's see this might go horribly wrong going live I've got like a custom um there's too many things I've got a custom skin on the front now nice so I'm really actually I need to keep talking when I'm showing it so then the automatic AI will jump over to me so yeah I've got.

I've got a custom Kim otong skin and it's in this nice like Emerald like kit as well which is really really nice and I've bought a mapex kit so it's it's like I've only ever bought mapex um my first kit was a mapex um which ages ago non drumers I personally love their like hardware and also the colors of the kits really nice um so like they have very specific spefic like intricate Hardware pieces that just makes things easier so one of which you.

See these stands here this boom like stand stuff it actually can fold into itself um so it can go down into itself so then it means that it's not like awkwardly stuck it can like pack Away really really nicely um so that was like one of the many Innovations that's dotted around the kit um that I've always liked and they've obviously ever since kept those things in um so yeah I've always been a fan of mapex for some.

Reason I like their stuff I like their Hardware their Hardware is always like good um so yeah that's my latest purchase big purchase which is kind of like a happy birthday by like a, pound drum kit basically so it's it's um needed as well because you turn up these gigs and they say they don't have any backline which essentially means they don't have drum kit for you you have to bring your own drum kit or arrange it with somebody else so now I can be like.

Cool I've got my own drum kit so yeah and also I was like oh maybe I should put it on fat llama rent it out like if I rented it out like £40 a day or £60 a day something like that you soon make your money back but I wouldn't want to rent out now because I want to play it for a few times before I rent it out so I want to like what you could do there's.

A holiday mode so you can say it's unavailable so you could have it for rental so people can view it but they can't book it because they still request to see if it's there um to see if it's available so what you could do is put it up there tell people about it put it on the podcast if anyone wants to run it for that one listener in London yeah and it's like so then you're out there so.

Then if people want to do it they they'll know about it so then when you do go right I'm happy to share it because I guess it's that element of you'll probably have to go on holiday mode a couple of days before every gig to make sure it doesn't break so you can fix it or tune it or whatever you need to do yeah that that's actually a good point what one thing I have been thinking so like this is probably going.

To be the actual content of the Pod I've been thinking that I wanted start up solo podcast episodes again to um build on what door stop is so door stop obviously we have a bunch of data now we're coming up to like 50 episodes which is phenomenal like it's really really good because if you tell that to somebody a lot of people don't know like the episodes could be rubbish right they could be awful but if if you say yeah I.

Run a podcast like we've done three we've done three seasons so we've run it for three years we've done about 50 episodes or whatever right some would be like oh that's amazing so and we've had sponsorships on job in and yeah yeah and we've had sponsorships across the years as well so if people don't know what that entails then it sounds great but even if people know what that entails it also sounds great um I keep on hearing.

Like this um I'm not sure who it was by but uh someone was like every time there's a bit every time you like hit like a hurdle or something and it gets harder this person celebrates because he knows that some people will stop so as long as he carries on like it's whittling it's like natural selection kind of like whittling people down so every time something gets harder he like celebrates it because he knows that it's like cool like most.

People like some people will give up here some people will give up here some people will give up here so it's like yeah can you do something for long enough um that other people just give up essentially and not survive so that's like one thing like just lasting out the competition to some degree um but I'm also like oh maybe I can start doing solo um pieces off the back of the insights from what we've learned so one.

Episode that's really popular is um don't be afraid to see don't be afraid to be seen trying that was probably a little bit wordy but like yeah don't be afraid to be seen trying it's not not only your voice is glitching it's the videos I am a robot so I'm like oh I could take the high performing videos and then do solo videos of them and I think I want to do some like drum videos and stuff just like cool I bought.

A Apex kit let me do a review of of the stuff um and I I think one video that I want to do is like I'm the whole like don't be afraid to be seen trying I'm want to basically be a millionaire by 35 so I'm about to turn 34 which I actually forgot I thought I was older I was like oh I'm going to be 35 but I'm no I'm not 2024 24 so um 30 34 sorry I got to add 10 um.

So I think this year is I'm going to be a millionaire and if I put it out there then it's like cool I'm living I'm living it out right I'm putting it out there don't be afraid to be seen try I'm literally I'm I am going to be a millionaire and you're literally going to watch watch me do this and that would be a great YouTube kind of like journey of doing it people to go back on yeah.

Yeah and and I think it'd be cool because like my kids or grandkids or whatever or nieces and nephews can seal that stuff um so I think it'd be encouraging and and the first step to that million is like I'm essentially seeing million pounds as a super super small number which means it's super obtainable like there's a flat that since Stratford going for like 17 million it's a penthouse flat I've got us think that 1 million is nothing because there's people out here.

Buying 17 million pound Flats Penthouse Flats in Stratford East London so I'm like I'm brainwashing myself like we've always said right it's all about the mindset so I'm literally going to become a millionaire you're going to see it happen on Dan Ryland on Dan ryland's channel so go over and subscribe if you've not subscribed to that one and if you're not subscribed here then should you should subscribe here because chances are I'll also be sharing some of the insights here as well and like how.

I'm going to do it so it's Inception we're talking podcasting within a podcasting format we're breaking the fourth wall right it's the Inception podcast or the fifth wall or the sixth wall however however many dimensions there are so so I'll guess I'll be the interviewer as you've brought the the passion today so um no you need to also you were just doing the shaking up thing otherwise the shake up energy thing did not work so you need to do it again to bring the.

Energy as it was energy energy energy energy um you're not thrusting hard enough I think um okay that could be the intro that the intro yeah um I I I think I've been thinking the same of doing extra podcasts and not necessarily I think I'm trying to get out the heads space of trying to do Perfection and know exactly what I want to do and just do it and then learn along the way because I've noticed just by doing this.

Podcast actually how hard it is to be consistent looking at your video your camera your mic investing time energy finances or whatever just to slowly build it into something that you're like okay what is 80% there how do I get it to there okay because it's a one man band I might have ideas to how to get it that extra 20% higher but it's like how can I just ch down more content and thoughts just to I guess learn more so I've been thinking.

That recently as well of creating more podcast content but just stuck on the the what because I guess that's the thing it's it's easy to turn out content when you know exactly if you're talking about Liverpool or football it's very Niche or Tech or whatever but I find that my thoughts and Minds to some extent dotted about in different areas so I was more wondering actually like a day in a life or like whatever is my interest so then if the spotlights on me.

Then it sort of doesn't really matter what REM you go into as long as your thumbnail shows that it's Tech this week or sport next week or whatever yeah yeah because we're not monolith right we're not just one thing we're a multitude of things and ultimately if what what I found is like if you just start something in some Direction doesn't matter that it's the right direction or not but over time you realize what becomes like easy to say or the things.

That we come back to so the things that like persist then so yes overall I would say that we've predominantly spoken about like emotions creativity ideas mindset and stuff and we've just carried on doing that because that is like an interest of ours so it's like maybe we did do some like w speaking at some point but it's kind of like gone off a little bit because it's just like harder to do so like we've just kept going.

Forward and just trying things and I agree with the whole Perfection um or even like the analysis paralysis kind of stuff isn't it just doing pieces to camera is harder than having a conversation so that's another thing that I'm interested in just doing a piece to camera looking at a lens is a little bit harder but all you have to do is just imagine that person on the other end like who does that look like who is that person and trying.

Like projectors if you're speaking to that person rather than anything else I watched this lady do um this like how to become a millionaire video and she's just projecting that like she's got this like 35 to 45 year old woman on the other side that just like there's inform this information is out there here I'm just telling you this information this like Route One um and I'm like I think I'm tired of these people that become millionaires telling other people to.

Become millionaires which is probably lightly Their audience like could be a split of people that will never become Millionaires and then people that will become millionaires right so it's like I I read um I can't remember the name of the book but the book essentially said the way that millionaires become millionaires are selling books to people about how to become millionaires that's how people are becoming millionaires do you know what I mean so Dan started to write a.

Book well this is it you've tied me your first you've jugged my memory I think if I take episodes and essentially refine them into chapters of a book if I did 12 like pretty decent episodes um or like overall like whichever episodes get the most views become your chapters you could then utilize what I've said in the in the video and also like flesh it out more so like it makes sense that chapter one is like don't be afraid to be seen trying.

Like that would definitely be like number one way to become a millionaire is don't be afraid to be SE trying this is chapter one and this is it you need to put it out there I'm going to become a millionaire by this time by this goal kind of thing you know like that's it it's out there now on the internet someone will bring it back up at some point and I'll be like oh cool I did do it you know whatever whatever you know.

Positive mindset so yeah you just got to get it out there into The Ether like speak it into existence as it were be like affirmative um like affirmations and all that stuff so yeah millionaires are making books that we're then buying and saying that I'm definitely going to get Gary V's new book which is about day trading attention or something like because it's on Audible um so I'll probably be able to um get it for free even though it's.

Not for free whatever yeah I think my level has now gone to 2.5 I think I can do 2.5 just about so upgrading yeah yeah so so yeah it's it's cool it's cool have have you had a chat with your business person not that you can say who it is probably but as it happened the one that you talked about yesterday yeah no not yet okay cool I've not had any cont hold up for next week hold up for next week so but yeah so.

This is the Stak in the ground on this channel to be like I'm going to be a millionaire by the time of 35 and then on my other channel which is my personal Channel I don't think I've posted since like the end that like some point in 2023 so it'll be interesting to reignite that I think that's the thing I was looking at the analytics if don't be a door stop when we were on a rooll of doing it week.

In week out and actually the analytics aren't too shabby and then we randomly just stopped doing it and just lost all momentum I need to start again yeah and the most important thing is that we didn't quit we were still here like Trucking along as it were and I agree one thing I did think could I do do videos which were only um shorts so yeah there wouldn't be long form ever there would only be shorts and then could I basically do that because.

They don't need to be long because you always think oh you need to make an 8 minute 10 minute 15 minute video and actually like could you build a YouTube channel with just shorts AKA Tik Tok right Tik Tok if that does end up disappearing I think like YouTube shorts are going to be like everything think is Tik tock like orientated anyway right with short form videos so you could do two minute videos one minute videos of just like how you becoming a millionaire.

You sit there record it for 10 minutes and then just splice it out and then you have your like weeks worth of content um like you post a video every day so I'm like I'm unsure I'm not sure if I'm going to be like Punchy enough to do it just as shorts yet but I might trial just doing shorts cuz I think more people will watch it so yeah yeah I think it is interesting cuz last time I.

Was looking at algorithms and stuff I think Tik Tok were trying to push people to either um Carousel images like scrolling through images or five minute videos which I thought was a bit random that it feels like you're going back on yourself with Instagram with the images but then you're also tapping into the YouTube slightly longer videos when actually Tik Tok is renowned for similar to vine and those types of things is the the short format that yeah yeah and and now you.

Mention Vine I definitely think Vine is going to come back because if if Tik Tok is like on the verge of being like canceled out in the states I think it' be a perfect place for Elon Musk to bring back Vine because that was so like that was like the V1 of Tik Tok essentially wasn't it like short short film videos and we all got inod to a bunch of Comedians and a bunch of like like people that did like skits right like.

Acting and stuff on the the American scene so I think it would be a really interesting place to talking about El musk I spotted his tweet yesterday that was out of interest in all honesty do people call this X or call it Twitter I me they nearly commented to be like Twitter yeah it's the same as like um you know like Hoover is a brand but everybody calls it a Hoover right it's like sometimes you have to just like go.

With what the like the majority label is um even though it's the way the way that it is right um so yeah people are saying you still call it a tweet no I don't think you do I don't know what the alter know what they're called I don't even know what the new branding format is would it be I just posted X or I just posted an X I just did an X post or something I I don't know or like.

An X thread or an X sounds like your only F page I think that's why it doesn't land tell talking about only fans I put on my LinkedIn inside it is the only fans for musicians and then when the guy called me up yesterday he was like oh yeah how are you doing like catching up and he's like yeah yeah so I see you running like an this new thing like inside like the only fans for musicians I was like awesome I've got him like the.

Fact that somebody can like tell that back to me um as like a point of conversation like oh tell me more about this is good so even though we kind of like shied away from using it it's actually gritty enough to kind of like make it more memorable so I'm like I'm happy that that's the that's the case the tagline yeah yeah so don't be afraid of applying runchy taglines to things because it makes it memorable and then you're probably going to have a.

Better conversation off the back of that so closing thoughts ranchy tagline yeah what yeah what ranchy tagline can you guys come up with and it can't beore stop yeah and it can't be too obvious the subtlety is where it's funny yeah Dave Logan come on come out with a beauty Dave station come out with a beauty give us a wanty tagline for don't be a door stop which helps people actually talking about that do you genuinely want to be on the back of the.

Bus advertised as don't be a door stop because again I think don't be a door stop is quite like gritty in the sense of like what do you mean like in what way am I a door stop you know like it causes offense and then I'm like don't worry let me talk tell you why it's a doorstop and and this is it kind of thing you want be bus because I think maybe that should we should involve our community what photos or.

Wording so this this is what we'll say closing thoughts closing thoughts again again yeah for the fifth time this is good this is good episode lots of variation I had an email this week offering my agency advertising space on a local Fleet of buses in North Wales I've made the big leagues people I've made the big leagues so I was thinking no chance whatsoever that I would be advertising on the back of the bus however proposition one is like don't be.

A door stop and don't be a doorstop could be a funny advert on the back of a bus holding a prime ball owners of prime No No it should be like it should be a prime it should be a prime like uh yeah soft toy and a bucket hat and then W doors up sells Prime basically um yeah so do we do back of this bus advertise I don't know how much it is so I'd have to check but do we.

Advertise on the back of the bus for doors I would be like if we get two comments on this video because one is going to be easy is if we get two comments of people saying different people different people non-related to us non family members saying um what should they say in the comment an idea of whatever we do to the bus image but I yeah I I like has to be relatable but they should come bu bus butt if you come as but if you.

Comment bus but you can either spell yeah but with two T's you know if you if you or if you um comment bus but and there's two people that are not related to us I will inquire about this ad and we might be on a fleet of buses with our faces being like a who's that sto guy right with our faces on the back of the bus infin with the word stop being a door stop stop being a door stop.com no.

Wait didn't I say like stop being a no like don't be a door stop learn how w.com we have a QR code or whatever so yeah if if two people come in bus but I'll inquire on how much it costs and then we're probably going to have to crowdsource the finances for us to be on the bus and then yeah like can't why you checking out why are you checking out the butt of a bus check Len to podcast.

Instead stop checking out my rear listen to my podcast actually that'd be funny you know what might be funny is they might say we're not allowed to advertise with the with that like runchy thing yeah into bus butts listen to our podcast so yeah I think it'd be funny so yeah we're looking forward to those two people into big butts and then we can sell we can sell UMO pants Prime Bo pants with butt cheeks on like dingo.

It's all coming together if you don't know what we're talking about go back to episode like a couple episodes back about dingo has a new competition yeah yeah yeah into into big butts and then just as in the boxes feels like nothing at all like n Flanders I am genu I I'm genuinely interested in how this could go yeah into big butts question mark it' be me and you stood in Du lingo boxes but we should do um Muse lingo boxes and then.

With the over the shoulder look and then it be like listen to don't be a door stop.com I think I think we've come up with it there you go you had an like in the moment creativity if somebody in the comments the butts as in like butts as in excuses yes that would be a very clever thing no butts don't be a door stop like d butts don't butts big butts small butts no butts Time for Action listen to Door.

Stop N I don't know right we'll leave it for our community and we'll come back with thoughts and ideas so we're really looking forward to hearing what you guys think um cuz yeah we're we love you guys thanks for listening and if you haven't followed us yet please give us a follow um we'll make it worth your while with more but humor um and until next time keep hammering those nails and also give us a uh more runchy tagline to use we'll.

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